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? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs every year. call today to request a free decision guide. with this type of plan, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. if you're thinking about your options, call today. when you call, request your free decision guide. and find the aarp medicare supplement plan that may be right for you. >>> welcome back. thousands of protestors are rallying for a sixth day in tahrir square and bigger protests for friday. they continue to demand na egypt's new president revoke the decree issued last thursday giving himself near absolute power. another protestor died today in a clash with police. he's the third person killed
reform from medicare. martha, i have to tell you. i got new numbers from medicare, from trustees, actually. medicare has to pay out in the future $42 trillion. that is money which it does not now have. so you can see that this is very serious issue. cuts in spending, cuts to medicare. who will make them? it is very serious because what that kind of money outstanding you need some kind of an agreement and fast. the bottom line right now, martha, it is again an impasse. martha: that's a huge number, stuart. it was about 38 trillion just less than a year ago i believe. >> yes. martha: so that number has really ballooned to 42 trillion as stuart shares with us in terms of those numbers. let's go back to the republican side for just a moment because i think there is a discrepancy in terms of the understanding what republicans seem to be agreeing to do. there is difference between raising tax rates which they have said they will not do. so i don't see any ground being ceded on the raising of tax rates for the wealthy but the changing of loopholes that would indeed, would that produce r
medicare and medicaid, we're talking about people's lives and health care. this is part of the reason why the president doesn't want social security to be part of it. why folk on the left are still angry that something like medicare or medicaid are sort of used as false equivalencies with tax increases. we have to think about people's real lives and health care really addresses those issues versus wealthy folk paying a little more. >> david, if that's the case, if professor peterson is right, why then did the president when he was in the process of negotiating a grand bargain with speaker boehner, agree to suggest or even imply that, for example, the age of qualification for certain of these entitlements would go up? >> the president has decided that the way to deal with this overall, i'm not saying this is right or wrong, is that we have divided government which means we're going to try to take care of the deficit and the tax cut and also the debt ceiling issue all at once. he tried to do that two summers ago and came close and he felt you had to give up something in terms of -- not soci
? medicare, medicaid carefully, these are chief drivers of our deficit. we made a lot of progress with obama care and there's other spending we have to cut. >> hold on a second. i think we all know what the chief drivers of our deficit are and have been. our projected deficit over the next seven years is driven mostly by the wars in iraq and afghanistan and the bush tax cuts. entitlement programs don't even compete with these costs. plouffe went on to pin the problem largely on republicans who are not flexible on higher tax rates, but he also said this. >> and so where i think the big bottleneck right now is republicans in congress on revenue and how much and where does it come from. democrats are also going to have to step up here and do some tough things. and you know, the notion that somehow that these deficits and our debt are not a threat to our national security and our economic future is something i could not disagree with more strongly, as does the president. there are some, maybe not so much in our party but some commentators on the left that suggest that we shouldn't deal with this
. medicare is in more immediate danger. we want to save these programs and i understand the dilemma that the president and thethey don't want to change anything. well, times change. and until we make sure these popular entitlement programs fit the demographics of the changingit's simple math. what we have lacked so far is the political courage to do what needs to be done. look, i'm not happy about divided government. i would rather have a republican president, republican senate and republic house. good things about divided government, it's the best time to do really hard stuff and i'll give you four good examples. did the comprehensive tax reform. clinton, welfare reform and balanced the budget for multiple years in the late 1990's. this is the perfect time to solve single biggest problem confronting our country and we are anxious to sit down and get the job done. \[inaudible question] >> dick durbin says as talks continue on of this booklet democrats must be open to painful topics, including medicare and medicaid. he was at the center for american progress for about 45 minutes. >>
taxes. is it equally difficult to get democrats to agree to touch medicare? >> not when you have the president say he's going to do it. he said it during the grand bargain that didn't become too grand or a bargain, but he talked about entitlement reform and he's still talking about entitlement reform. he will do something in that area, as long as he can hammer those guys over $250,000. and make them pay more taxes. how $250,000 got to the point where that's the, quote, middle class is beyond my comprehens n comprehension. 100 would have been more appropriate for more real live people. he's going to get that. hopefully he can do it without doing rate increases, which are going to cost. anybody who is, quote, rich shouldn't mind paying more taxes. i don't understand that at all. and i don't understand that somebody, if you let them earn more money is going to use it to hire people. they may likely buy another kind of rig or a toy or something like that. i don't know. but all i know is one thing, you can't cut -- you can't cut spending away out of this hole, you can't tax your way
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that really meets your needs and your budget? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand medicare and which aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with this type of plan, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. there's a range of plans to choose from, too. and they all travel with you. anywhere in the country. join the millions who have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement plans endorsed by aarp, an organization serving the needs of people 50 and over for generations... and provided by unitedhealthcare insurance company, which has over 30 years of experience behin
. and two entitlement reform that means getting rid of social security and medicare and making at it voucher program, which mitt romney and paul ryan supported and the american people rejected. so don't fall for this republican line of baloney that they have suddenly seen -- gotten religion when it comes to new revenue. the only solution is an balanced report which includes spending cuts and new revenue and not just closing loopholes. it's not just closing loopholes. it has got to include raising taxes on the wealthiest 1%. let's talk about it 866-55-press. 866-557-7377. i hope i'm not alone among the media who will say these republicans are just trying to con the americans one more time and stick to the old mitt romney plan which the american people rejected on november 6th. don't fall for it. 866-55-press. let's talk about it. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay
medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. >>> cue the drum roll please, a top republican is trying to put distance between the gop and tax master grover norquist. at a closed-door meeting yesterday congressman tom cole urged his colleagues to get in line behind president obama and vote to extend only the bush tax cuts for middle income earners. such a move could lead to the expiration for the bush tax cuts for the top 2%. before the norquist spirit chasers could reach him, cole clarified today republicans could live to fight for lower rates another day. >> in my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. we should just
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on the table we are not very serious. we know that medicare and social security are going to grow. >>neil: thank yous senator. normally, you know with every prominent guest i write them a thank you note and you just let me know, you don't like it, you don't --. >>guest: no, it is not that. i don't want you to take your time that you have to devote to and talking to grover norquist and all the other things. that is all. i do appreciate the opportunity of being on your show and i think you do a great job and you are a fund guy. >>neil: it is fun to cut out magazine letters circumstances. john mccain, senator, and former presidential candidate. thank you. go for the hikes, just keep your hands off entitlements, unions are sending that message to congress. is congress listening? republican senator rand paul says they better not listen to that. ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground s
, let's be honest. they mean getting rid of medicare, getting rid of medicaid. >> structural reforms. >> bill: and privatizing social security. >> it was good to hear yesterday jay carney the white house press secretary, i don't know if you were there. taking social security off the table. it's not a problem. it hasn't contributed to the deficit. that's off the table. they're open to medicare. they've been open to changing provider payments which there is a lot of waste there. encouraging pharmacy companies to give medicare and medicaid better rates. those are all positive reforms. those are big savings. so we can take and find savings from the provider side. it is when you go after the beneficiaries that you run into problems but look, you know, romney ran an entire campaign hitting democrats for cutting $716 billion out of medicare. now they turn -- republicans backed that view we shouldn't touch medicare at all. now they turn around and say you have to cut medicare. it is as if the 716 debate we had for mo
democrats are facing pressure from interest groups who oppose changes to medicare and social security like this one from the aarp. >> some politicians think medicare and social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future of these programs into a last-minute budget teal, we'll all pay the price. >> and there's your potential pressure from the left. gop negotiators have put adjusting the measure of inflation which determines social security benefits back on the table, something the president had agreed to in 2011. majority leader harry reid has ruled that out this time and the number two democrat durbin repeated reid's position on sunday. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things, and i believe we should, now, smaller things, played out over the longer term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. >> there's still staff level discussions going on. and, by the way, as much as washington gets cau
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is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. >>> breaking news from egypt. thousands of protesters gathered in tahrir square. 6:15 at night there, many have been chanting step down in reaction to the decree issue by egypt's new president that grants him absolute power. the sixth straight day of protest after morsi issued his decree last thursday. earlier today, the protest turning violent on a street near tahrir square. at least three protesters have been killed since the weekend. nbc live from cairo. and the crowd in tahrir square has been growing, building over the past hours. explain what we're seeing now. >> reporter: well, behind me, probably tens of thousands of egyptians have gathered, been here since the early hours of the morning. in fact, some have been camped out for the past six days. many songs, chants, slogans reminiscent of two years ago, calling on the same things they did two years ago, which is for the president of e
in medicare that might set off gaps in coverage, senior citizens not getting health care coverage. there you go. they're saying to put everything on the table but when you get in the details that's why they haven't come to a deal because the devil will be in the details, jenna. jenna: maybe they start with a salute and end with a handshake. ed, great to see you report great to see you. jenna: thank you very much. jon: several republican lawmakers are toning down their criticism of u.n. ambassador susan rice and her handling of the deadly attack on the consulate in libya. ambassador rice was under fire for appearances on the television immediately after the attack where she blamed it on the youtube video. many vocal critics, like senator john mccain are turning up the heat on president obama and the state department. >> the problem is the president of the united states in a debate with mitt romney said that he had said it was a terrorist attack. he hadn't. jon: chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington. she has more on all of this. so this shift in focus to the
republicans seem to really want is what they would call reform or spending cuts on the medicare side. you guys, your think tank released a report on how to do that while protecting seniors. if the center for american progress is saying you can cut medicare, is there common ground that can be reached here? >> i hope so. in the distant past, it was republicaned talking about ways to strengthen medicare by ensuring we are lowering health care costs. $385 billion in additional savings in medicare, but importantly, our proposals protect middle income beneficiaries. the pledge has required that republicans really go after beneficiaries. both for medicare and social security. so we're saying you can have a good deficit reduction plan that has savings in medicare, but it's important that we protect those who are vulnerable in the middle class, seniors, those on medicaid and we can do that. and one thing i would say about the pledge, there's a lot of talk about the politics and republicans moving, et cetera. the issue here is not politics when we're together. americans support this idea of basic fairne
of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the preventive benefits you get after the health care law. ♪ open enrollment ends dember 7th. so now's the time. visit care.gov or call 1-800-medicare. >>neil: and guess what is topic one at the u.n. climate control? hurricane sandy, a storm they are still cleaning up and environmentalists hope they will be clean will up there, where some countries using the storm that dislocated thousands to now redistribute wealth to the tune of billions. all in the name of climate change. our reporter says that will cost a lot more that chump change. what is going on here? >>guest: well, this is like pavlov dogs, the activists think we need more taxes and regulations to stop bad weather. this is a primitive form of science. to use hurricane sandy as a poster child for global warming as the united nations and al gore is now doing, that makes as little sense as you can possibly imagine. we are at 30 or 40
like to pretend as though they're the great protectors of social security, medicare, and medicaid. they make solemn pledges all the time about how they won't even entertain a discussion about reform. what they don't say is that ignoring these programs is the surest way to guarantee their collapse. all we're calling for is an honest conversation. we all know these programs are in trouble. let's figure out a solution. when it comes to entitlements, republicans are guided by a simple principle: we don't want americans to age into a system that no longer exists. we do not want americans to age into a system that no longer exists. we want to protect them and to protect people's investment in them. but we can't do it alone. reform is something that can only be done by both parties together. that's the reality. and there's been a scandalous lack of leadership on this issue for years among democrat leaders in washington because they think it's a winner politically. what i'm saying is that the democrats just won the election. congratulations. turn off the campaign and recognize the opportu
they shouldn't do the happy dance just yet. republicans will want payback, as in medicare, medicaid and social security. so for all of you who want tax hikes for the wealthy, what are you willing to give up in return? on social security? raising the retirement age to 70? on medicare, a total revamp is in instead of the government paying your medicare bills, you pay them with help from the government? you tell me. talk back question this morning, what should republicans expect in return for new taxes? facebook.com/carolcnn. facebook.com/carolcnn. your comments later this hour. >>> more republican lawmakers -- well, as i just said, they're willing to break that no new tax pledge. we'll talk about that with our political panel, next. we use this board to compare car insurance rates side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board. what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. why am i not going anywhere? you don't believe hard enough. a smarter way to shop around. now that's progressive. call or click today. [ gruntin
in the summer and say, don't bring in your healthcare reform stuff, don't bring in your medicare, don't bring in social security, focus exclusively on the question of whether or not you will raise taxes in order to offset these automatic cuts. the white house is trying to portray this as a one-for-one deal that they are going to renegotiate what they already negotiated in august. they say if republicans want less spending cuts on the defense side they better be willing to give up on the tax side and have tax increases. i think they are perfectly willing as it stands now to take it off the cliff and let the taxes go into effect, because if the republicans won't give them what they want on a tax rate increase for top earners they think they will get them later once people are outraged that their taxes went up. megyn: but, to not offer any spending cuts, what would be the republican incentive to agree to raising taxes on the wealthy if they don't get anything in return? >> well, the incentive would be from the president's point of view, is that everybody's taxes will go up anyway and once you ge
know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand medicare and whh aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with this type of plan, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. there's a range of plans to choose from, too. and they all travel with you. anywhere in the country. join the millions who have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement pla endorsed by aarp, an organization serving the needs of people 50 and over for generations... and provided by unitedhealthcare insurance company, which has over 30 years of experience behind it. call today. remember, all medicare supplement pla
of entitlement reforms in medicare and social security that senator graham is saying are prerequisite to a deal. >> let me tell you, first, george, and you know this, social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation. and we can do things and i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives its solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. we want medicare to be there for today's seniors and tomorrow, as well. we don't want to go to the poll and voucherizing it and we can make meaningful reforms without compromising the integrity of the program, making sure that the beneficiaries are not paying the piece for it except perhaps the high income beneficiaries. that to me is a reasonable approach. let me salute lindsey graham. what he said about revenue in needs to be said on his side of the aisle. we put everything on the table. >> does that include raising the age for medicare eligibility? >> here's my
thing when it comes to entitlement spending. they want cuts, serious cuts in medicare, medicaid. will the liberal base of the democratic party go along with the president if he puts that into the deal? >> probably not. and part of the reason is because the democrats are in such a much more commanding position. you're talking about medicare, medicaid, social security. these are programs that are popular and working. if you look at social security, cbl says this program is solvent until 2038. you have a hard time convincing ordinary people there's some big emergency there. the tax cuts for the wealthy are budget busters. you have a hard time getting ordinary people to understand why we should take a chainsaw to middle class programs that are working, that are popular. to get republicans to do something that right now they're going to have to do anyway once january 1 comes. >> what will the democrats do to bring in the republicans to convince the republicans they're really going to cut spending? >> i think the spending cuts are on the table now with regard to defense. which i think
've meant medicare and medicaid. >> i refer to health care programs and i think the president has long made clear that he is open to discussions about strengthening social security as part of a separate tract. we should address the drivers of the deficit and social security is not currently a driver of the deficit. >> they made that abundant ly clear. when they say entitlement reform it does not include social security and what they define it as. grover norquist is having to defend himself after several prominent senate republicans indicated a willingness to break his famous pledge, arguing republicans who agree to tax hikes just like they did under president bush. >> it is important that the republicans don't have their fingerprints all over the murder weapon, their fingerprints all over a lousy budget deal with tax increases and no real spending, just as happened to republicans in 1990 which cost us the presidency in '92. >> "the wall street journal" defends norquist today writing, quote, the voters are smart enough to know that republicans who focus on mr. norquist are part of the proble
achievements of the past century, social security and medicare, on the chopping block in exchange for that. that shouldn't be in exchange for that, because if we simply do nothing, the republicans lose everything they want. >> such a great point. dan, speaking of republicans not recognizing the new reality, grover norquist has been furiously trying to spin the fact that there are several senators and members of congress who are moving away from his sacred pledge. let's take a listen to a little bit of grover. >> the pledge is not for life, but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. no pledge taker has voted for a tax increase. they've had some people discussing impure thoughts on national television. the same thing with other people who are elected because they made that written commitment to the people of their state. >> that sounds like a threat. >> why does he keep making this romantic sexual thing? >> d
, republicans want changes to medicare and medicaid, cuts they say will keep both of them solvent for future generations. in exchange, one possible deal would eliminate deductions for the wealthy, maybe even the very popular mortgage deduction. and while republicans have been more open to revenue, that does not mean tax rate increases. many democrats insist that tax rates for the wealthiest americans absolutely have to go up. but they don't necessarily agree on how much they should rise. let me bring in usa today's washington bureau chief, susan page, and ryan grim. good morning to both of you. >> hey, good morning. >> good morning. >> we've laid out some of the basics there and warren buffett was out this morning talking about taxing the wealthy. he says there should be a minimum tax on millionaires. take a listen. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes, and then they've watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> you kno
within the medicare program, move away from a fee for service system which does lead to higher costs, but we would not take -- we would not simply take those rising costs and put them on the backs of seniors as the republican plan would. >> yes or no, do you support raising the retirement age? >> no, i do not support raising the retirement age. as i said, i think the best approach to dealing with this is to build on the progress that we made in the affordable care act which is already showing signs of slowly bending the cost curve in health care. we need to do more, but we shouldn't do it by simply transferring the risks and costs onto the backs of seniors and that's the very different approach that we have taken from our republican colleagues. >> a growing group of liberal fiscal cliff jumpers if you will as they're being called, they seem to be willing to risk everything, jump off the cliff if social safety nets face deep cuts while tax rates stay low for the wealthy. do you think that is smart politics or could it backfire against democrats? >> i think what the president has said
to raise the retirement age of medicare, might fold parts of medicare into one, so you can get efficiencies. that will be on the table. there's going to be cuts. and i don't think it's a mystery about how big the tax increase is going to be. john boehner says 800 billion, the president puts down a $1.6 trillion marker. doesn't take einstein to figure out you get $1.2 trillion. to me, that's going to be the size of the tax increase. you have warren buffett on later today. i think his op-ed in the "new york times" is one of three live options for how you get there. a flat minimum tax for rich people or some cap on deductions, which i think is going to becoming increasingly appealing to lawmakers as they try to solve this or flat out increasing the rates, which is a non-starter for a lot of republicans. i think you're going to see a slightly higher rate with some kind of cap on deductions or alternative minimum tax for rich people. >> a combination of those two. we've got a lot more to talk about with you. monday night football highlights the eagles showing they don't need michael vick to lose
the president said in 2010. >> the major driver of the long-term liabilities is medicare, medicaid and healthcare spending. nothing comes close. social security we could probably fix the same way tip o'neil and ronald reagan sat down together and we could figure something out. that is manageable. medicare and medicaid, massive problems down the road. that's where, that is what our children have to worry about. >> dana: here we are, two years later and still no plan. on the left in congress refusing to deal with that simple reality. vermont senator bernie sanders caucuses with the democrats. take a listen. >> i get nervous when i hear the president and others continue to talk about quote/unquote, entitlement reform. which is just another cut for medicaid and medicare and social security. >> eric: brian, start with you, today. >> dana: you look surprised. >> brian: i am. yet honored. >> dana: do you think they are closer to a deal? after thanksgiving people get back to work. >> brian: i was encouraged when i pick up the papered president is working with people. but then i pick up the
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are running ads, don't cut medicare and medicaid. at the same time the defense industry, manufacturers, they're lobbying against cuts. afraid jobs will be lost for the people who make the weapons. the list goes on and on. so how does this shape a potential deal? >> well, there's pressure from both sides. negotiators in congress right now from both parties are trying to find a way to avoid the cliff. that could be a temporary way to do that and come back over tax reform next year. i think what the signs are that the president wants to raise tax rates on the wealthiest 2% of earners, a balanced approach, but the republican party is saying, hey, wait a minute. let's close tax loopholes, close deductions. that's a better way. so i think they are looking for are a path down the middle. >> doug, try to reconcile all of this. you have "the washington post" which highlighted the number of polls showing people want smaller government but they don't want cuts in any of the entitlement programs. they do want the deficit cuts. you can't have it all, right? >> right. well, if you look at the exit polling
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entitlement reform for one simple reason. medicare untouched, unchanged, runs out of money in 12 years. we need to take a hard look at it to find ways to preserve this important program, have savings that don't hurt the beneficiaries, and actually do reduce the deficit in the process. >> what about those republican critics, senator, who say it's not possible to make any real progress without -- on spending, shall we say, without seriously addressing the medicare, the medicaid, maybe even the social security entitlement program and to do it now? >> social security doesn't add one penny to the deficit. it's a separate trust fund. i believe it needs reform over a long period, but it should be done separately from this showdown over the fiscal cliff. medicare as i mentioned will run out of money if we don't do something. it runs out in 12 years. medicaid, the health insurance program for the poor across america, is critically important. one out of three people in this country are going to rely on medicare and medicaid for their health insurance. so we need to find ways to preserve these progra
dick durbin says medicare and medicaid are fair game in deficit negotiations, but insist social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt, not a penny. it's a separate funded operation, and we can do things, and i believe we should now, smaller things, played out over the long term that gives it solvency. medicare is another story. only 12 years of solvency lie ahead if we do nothing. so those who say don't touch it, don't change it are ignoring the obvious. >> despite showing willingness for reform -- >> can we talk about that for a second? >> i don't want to repeat what you said. >> it's bull hockey. >> that's not what you said. >> this whole thing has been a complete farce for years. there's no trust fund. they raided that a long time ago. but the bigger point, i will because you know what? my heart has grown like the grinch's since thanksgiving. i have so much to be thankful for. >> it's been growing ever since election day, basically. >> so i'm going to be kind. first of all, senator durbin deserves respect on this front because he
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for medicare. >> there will be gaps in coverage. >> another chairman max baucus told the newspaper in his home state the wish list for the debt talk includes more money. tax credit for wind farms in montana, protecting rural hospitals and ending the estate tax. others are going further urging the president to allow the nation to dive off the cliff with the automatic touch to pentagon -- cuts to pentagon ib stead of to domestic programs. >> on the question of leadership, the white house aides say the past weekend, the president called both senator reid and speaker boehner to get things going. there is a talk of a immediating at the white house later this week. >> ed henry live on the north lawn. thank you. stocks were mixed. the dow lost 42. nasdaq gained ten. they are still trying to find a deal for bail-out money for greece. they failed to reach an agreement twice in two weeks. mary schapiro is leaving next month. she will be replaced by the sikh commission member elite walter. you may want to let go of your mouse and pay attention the next story. you and your fellow americans are expected to
it would seem. nobody wants their medicare or social security benefits cut, and those are the huge drivers of national debt. >> don't forget that barack obama during the so-called grand bargain talks of a year and a half ago put entitlement spending, entitlement cuts on the map. he basically said, look, democrats will talk about raising the age for medicare, for example, social security, you know, all these issues. the problem is, you know, as monica just pointed out, when you have a senator like saxby chambliss not necessarily saying i'm going to raise taxes, but saying i'm not going to be held enthralled to grover norquist or some pledge i signed, i'm going to at least consider it. then you hear from the primary, oh, no, you're getting a primary, you're out of there. how do you compromise from somebody who raises his head and says i'm not going to necessarily do it, i'm just going to talk about it, and all of a sudden you're outta here? >> because, look, both parties have to stand for something. if you flush down the toilet your core principle about not raising taxes on the american peop
and not touch medicare or medicaid? it is all part of the deal. >> gretchen: once you get people back to the table. it is it like a marriage, marriages don't work when one party said i will not budge on anything. >> brian: i hope my wife is listening. >> steve: we are in the let's make a deal stage. both sides want to appear flexibility when it comes to doing something. we aapparently the president of the united states. the week after thanksgiving nothing is scheduled. but we understand that the top aides are working together to do something. who is leading the charge for the white house? tim geithner. it is interesting, in the beginning, during the confirmation it was revealed he did not file taxes properly and people say is he qualified to be the treasury of the secretary. according to the wall street journal. they work with him and like him. and jack lu who did it last time blew it. >> gretchen: why not have bowles-simpson come back. why do we spend more time. rephrase that. why are we wasting more time trying to come together on a deal when the bowles-simpson. >> brian: they didn'
't want deep cuts to programs like medicaid, medicare, social security. some republicans say it's the only way to get a deal. >> the reason we're having these negotiations is because washington democrats have spent money without any care for the cost or the future. and refuse to do anything to protect long-term spending programs like medicare, a failure that's among the biggest single drivers of our debt. >> one out of three people in this country are going to rely on medicare and head cade for their health insurance. so we need to find ways to preserve these programs. >> senator durbin says the debate over entitlement programs should be fought after the new year. he's going to join us in a few minutes to talk about it. >>> police on new york's long island investigating a deadly bus crash, a 6-year-old boy was killed last night when the driver of that bus lost control and went barreling into the front bedroom of the boy's home. police say the bus driver swerved to avoid hitting a pedestrian. 11 people on board the bus suffered minor injuries. the boy's 7-year-old briere was hurt but not se
with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. >>> it's funny to watch a senator or congressman who got himself elected by promising the citizens of his state that he would go to washington to reform government, not raise taxes to pay paper over problems deciding that when they haven't done that and the going gets rough that they have an argument with me. >> so that is grover norquist if you don't already know. you probably should because he is making a lot of tv appearances. that was piers morgan tonight -- last night. >>> his group, american for tax reform is behind that no-tax pledge that's signed by the majority of republicans in congress. but now a few high-profile members of the gop are openingly questioning their pledge and saying it may stand in the way of getting a fiscal cliff deal done. that's one side of the equation. in exchange, those republicans say, look, we'll back down. but not if we don't get something for it. we want some entitlement reform. here are
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